Crossfire Video of Jon Stewart Calmly Demolishing Tucker & Beglia
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What Crossfire thought they were going to get was probably an amiable Jon Stewart on to promote the Daily Show's new book, America The Book, and the Daily Show itself. I'm sure Tucker & Beglia thought they were going to have a fun time tossing Stewart some easy meat for Daily Show type insights but Stewart came in with a different agenda and stuck to it.
Stewart had stated his opinion of Crossfire on Now with Bill Moyers:
MOYERS: Which is funnier? CROSSFIRE or HARDBALL?
STEWART: CROSSFIRE or HARDBALL? Which is funnier? Which is more soul-crushing, do you mean? Both are equally dispiriting in their… you know, the whole idea that political discourse has degenerated into shows that have to be entitled CROSSFIRE and HARDBALL. And you know, "I'm Gonna Beat Your Ass" or whatever they're calling them these days is mind-boggling.
CROSSFIRE, especially, is completely an apropos name. It's what innocent bystanders are caught in when gangs are fighting. And it just boggles my mind that that's given a half hour, an hour a day to… I don't understand how issues can be dissected from the left and from the right as though… even cartoon characters have more than left and right. They have up and down.
I mean, how... it's so two-dimensional to think that any analysis can come from, "It's the left and it's the right and well, we've had that discussion and that's done."
Man that he is, Stewart thought it appropriate to go on Crossfire and, in the spirit of fairness, confront them. Tucker & Beglia obviously weren't prepared for this. They hyped the segment with some line about having photos of the Supreme Court Justices nude. What they got instead was Jon Stewart stripped of his Daily Show persona and present as a conscientious citizen concerned for our democracy and the media's failure to live up to its promise.
I felt that that wasn't fair and I should come here and tell you that I don't -- it's not so much that [Crossfire is] bad, as it's hurting America.
See, the thing is, we need your help. Right now, you're helping the politicians and the corporations. And we're left out there to mow our lawns.
No, no, no, you're not too rough on them. You're part of their strategies. You are partisan, what do you call it, hacks.
Certainly, by this time, Tucker & Beglia had realized that they were in for a real fight and they persisted in trying to cut Stewart off and deflect him back into a more agreeable dialog.
Tucker is visibly red in the video. Beglia has some valiant attempts at trying to temper the discussion and appeal to Stewart's distress but Tucker is at a complete loss. He tries to fight back with increasingly lame red herrings but Stewart would have none of it. At first Tucker tried to impugn Stewart on his softball handling of Kerry on the Daily Show but Stewart countered the argument easily enough:
If you want to compare your show to a comedy show, you're more than welcome to.
If your idea of confronting me is that I don't ask hard-hitting enough news questions, we're in bad shape, fellows.
You're on CNN. The show that leads into me is puppets making crank phone calls.
Tucker repeatedly made his attacks poorly-veiled ad hominems...
You had Jon Kerry on your show and you sniff his throne and you're accusing us of partisan hackery?
Well, I'm just saying, there's no reason for you -- when you have this marvelous opportunity not to be the guy's butt boy, to go ahead and be his butt boy. Come on. It's embarrassing.
... which Stewart handled calmly though he was still willing to shoot back with his own.
STEWART: You know, the interesting thing I have is, you have a responsibility to the public discourse, and you fail miserably.
CARLSON: You need to get a job at a journalism school, I think.
STEWART: You need to go to one.
The thing that I want to say is, when you have people on for just knee-jerk, reactionary talk...
CARLSON: Wait. I thought you were going to be funny. Come on. Be funny.
STEWART: No. No. I'm not going to be your monkey.
Here, Tucker starts to lose it and he tries to again attack Jon personally rather than the substance of what he had been saying.
CARLSON: What's it like to have dinner with you? It must be excruciating. Do you like lecture people like this or do you come over to their house and sit and lecture them; they're not doing the right thing, that they're missing their opportunities, evading their responsibilities?
STEWART: If I think they are.
(LAUGHTER)
CARLSON: I wouldn't want to eat with you, man. That's horrible.
STEWART: I know. And you won't.
Tucker & Beglia probably had the producers screaming in their ear pieces to get the show back on script.
BEGALA: We did promise naked pictures of the Supreme Court justices.
CARLSON: Yes, we did. Let's get to those.
BEGALA: They're in this book, which is a very funny book.
STEWART: Why can't we just talk -- please, I beg of you guys, please.
These were not specious pleas from Stewart for real discussion. The show broke for commercials and upon return, Stewart would not relent.
CARLSON: Welcome back to CROSSFIRE.
We're talking to Jon Stewart, who was just lecturing us on our moral inferiority.
Jon, you're bumming us out. Tell us, what do you think about the Bill O'Reilly vibrator story?
STEWART: I'm sorry. I don't.
CARLSON: Oh, OK.
STEWART: What do you think?
BEGALA: Let me change the subject.
STEWART: Where's your moral outrage on this?
CARLSON: I don't have any.
STEWART: I know.
And further...
CARLSON: I do think you're more fun on your show. Just my opinion.
CARLSON: OK, up next, Jon Stewart goes one on one with his fans...
STEWART: You know what's interesting, though? You're as big a dick on your show as you are on any show.
It is apt to our times that it takes a jester like Jon Stewart to go onto a "debate" show and drill into these hacks that they have a job to do and aren't doing it. If any of you are still confused as to why the Daily Show is so popular as a "news" outlet, Jon's bold performance on Crossfire should explain much of that confusion away.
Thank the gods for Jon Stewart. I hope he gets more opportunities to speak his mind.